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May 8th, 2008 @ 14:36
This has been in the works for a while now, and for good reason. Rich Leadbetter’s GTA IV PS3-360 comparison feature’s gone live on Eurogamer, featuring pixel-to-pixel video comparisons of the two versions and more stats and figures than you could ever need. Check out average frame-rate counts between the two SKUs: it’s fanboy bait like no other.
Go wallow.
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May 8th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
LOL well it does drive up traffic
May 8th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
That’s going to go mental, I reckon. Those frame-rates are hilarious.
May 8th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Yep. There’s a huge thread on EG about how the PS3 version would be better if it was exclusive and how the 360 is holding back development.
Oh dear, oh dear.
May 8th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Well, obviously Eurogamer are biased against the PS3 and have skewed the figures accordingly.
/tin foil hat
/hides in cupboard
May 8th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I still reckon it looks better on 360. It’s sharper. Unless I’m blind.
May 8th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Sooo, what’s the conclusion on EG? It’s blocked at work. Apparently I’m to do things other than looking on gaming websites… I mean, really!
May 8th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Oh god. Prime the nukes!
May 8th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
303: 360, erm, ‘won’ - if you use that kind terminology.
May 8th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
From the conclusion:
After almost two thousands words of technical discussion, the bottom line is that it’s clear that Rockstar had some issues matching the basic performance of the Xbox 360 game on the PS3 hardware. Lower resolution, zero anti-aliasing support and a more variable frame-rate are the bottom line.
On the one hand, it’s a touch disappointing that Rockstar’s USD 100 million budget couldn’t extend to optimising the experience to match Xbox 360, especially when you look at a game like Burnout Paradise that doesn’t require a mandatory installation, has a basically rock solid frame-rate, and is technically identical cross-platform.
May 8th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
It never ceases to amaze me that they go to so much trouble with these things when the only people who are actually likely to care are the small proportion of gamers who have both machines (and ultimately it’s too late for them because they’ll have already bought it) and the fanboys who like to scream and shout about who’s bestest. It all seems like such a waste of time and effort, designed purely to start flame wars and earn page impressions.
And at the end of it all they didn’t even mention the single-most important difference between the two versions - the online stuff.
/gets off soap box
May 8th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
The appetite for it’s unending. Site’s like N4G are a classic example: all they want to do is argue about platforms.
May 8th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Who has logged in as Blerk? Him bringing up online gaming aspects of a title is UNPOSSIBLE! And that’s not even a word.
May 8th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
The dithering on the 360 does look crap and at times quite jarring. The software upscaling on the PS3 does nothing to hide the jagginess and I personally don’t like the fuzziness.
In the heat of a gunfight, it’s the latter that would bug me more.
May 8th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
“Yep. There’s a huge thread on EG about how the PS3 version would be better if it was exclusive and how the 360 is holding back development.
Oh dear, oh dear.”
It’s true though. Same as if the next one was 360 exclusive. It’s been proved time and time again that porting your game from 360 to PS3 is going to be a tough job. If the next one was PS3 exclusive, it would perform much better than the ported-from-360 GTAIV. Not that I think the next version should be exclusive to any platform, but that’s just the way it is.
“Sooo, what’s the conclusion on EG? It’s blocked at work. Apparently I’m to do things other than looking on gaming websites… I mean, really!”
PS3 version looks marginally better, 360 version performs marginally better. Although you probably won’t notice a difference either way. I played the PS3 version, and the framerate seems identical to me. As for looks, that’s just a personal opinion. The 360 version seems to have much crisper edges, but I don’t always think that’s a good thing, as the “softer” look of the PS3 version can sometimes works to its advantage. Having played both, I conclude that they’re, for all intents and purposes, identical.
May 8th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Surely the DS version will put them both to shame!
May 8th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
It’s fundamental human nature isn’t it? Two competitors, which one’s best?
I personally find these articles interesting as they helps to cut through all the tech PR talk of cell processors this and anti-aliasing that and actually show you, in pretty much layman’s terms which machine plays games the best. I think it benefits more as a curiosity experiment rather than a straight buying guide.
May 8th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
“I think it benefits more as a curiosity experiment rather than a straight buying guide.”
I think it’s neither.
Most of these comparisons, if not all, are just website traffic generators where people congregate to try and gang-bash any opposition to their champion.
I’d tend to think that human nature usually leans more towards “the truth is with us!!” rather than “which way to the truth!?”
The way I see it is, I’m a gamer. I want to play the best games.
If they’re on PS3, I’ll get a PS3.
If they’re on 360, I’ll get a 360.
I bought a PS1 for Tekken 3, an N64 for Ocarina of time, and other consoles for what I thought were killer apps.
Surely this is the way gamers should think?
Yet you get PS3 lovers slagging off Halo and 360 lovers slagging off MGS.
I think all this ‘get the console that I have and hate the console that I hate’ is all a bit too lynch-mob-ignorant for me…
May 8th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Tonka wins …
360 = new home of GTA
May 8th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
“Most of these comparisons, if not all, are just website traffic generators where people congregate to try and gang-bash any opposition to their champion.”
Absolutely, I agree completely. When I put it down to human nature I’m merely trying to account for the popularity of such features.
The logical response is to buy the best games for the best consoles, but not everyone can afford to do that which leads to choosing one format, particularly amongst younger gamers. That of course breeds partizanship, hence fanboys.
Mine’s better that yours! Such is life…
May 8th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
You know, I really tire of Eurogamer’s split personality. I recall they made a big hoo-hah decrying their readers doing endless platform comparisons. The next day they did a Burnout Paradise analysis and have done other stunts leading up to this one.
I won’t argue that it’s a reasonable well put together article but the motivation behind it is fucking moronic.
Still - I’m sure Eurogamer will enjoy the advertising revenue it brings in. I’d rather read something worthwhile about games instead. Eurogamer should take a leaf out of Game Set Watch to see how to make genuinely interesting and enlightening articles on topics that actually matter.
This is meant to be journalism? Fuck off.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Well the 360 is definitely sharper but i keep reading about the PS3 having better framerate and AI. TBH it doesn’t really matter either way as they both rock.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
whoelse: I think you got the framerate thing the wrong way around… based on what I’ve heard and the article at least.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
360 has the smoother framerate, but you probably wouldn’t be able to tell. It’s the “GTA framerate” and I’m well used to it already.
360 has sharper graphics definitely, but I wouldn’t say they were better. PS3 supposedly has a larger draw distance and less pop-in, but I never noticed it.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Wow. Hate spreads fast.
May 8th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Site’s like N4G are a classic example: all they want to do is argue about platforms.
Indeed. Someone from N4G commented on a blog post I made about this very subject the other day saying that to my eyes, the 360 version looked slightly sharper, but that the pop-up seemed less noticeable on the PS3. But that it didn’t matter because GTA wasn’t all about the graphics and you should buy it and play it rather than arguing about which version is better.
This is the reply, quoted verbatim:
“ps3 version is better. chris, u r a fag because do u realy think if the ps3 version upscalles it but the 360’s version will even though about 2 weeks a ago rockstar stated that bot version would (grafficly) be the same.
so in conclusion i hate u chris”
God bless the internet.
May 8th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Fucking hell. That’s not even funny.
May 8th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
It’s only University Challenge, Rick. It’s only University Challenge!!
May 8th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
lollerskates
May 8th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
I honestly think the fanboy war has turned a shade nastier this gen. I mean we’ve all been there at some point, Spectrum vs Commodore, Dizzy vs Seymour, Sonic vs Mario, Sega vs Nintendo etc.
This whole PS3 vs 360 thing seems to have attracted a generally more rabid and nastier breed of fan boy though. You just have to take a look at the GTA thread on Eurogamer, and the Xbots are genuinely quite rabid, whilst that comment from N4G posted by Hero, is so bereft of any sort of intelligence, it just defies belief that the poster is mentally capable enough to get online in the first place.
Of course the internet has certainly played a huge role in fanning the flames, but still, the tone seems to be nastier than I remember it ever being in the past.
….or am I just getting old?
May 8th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
No, I think you’re right. As Yahtzee said the other day, we’ve got probably the most balanced console generation ever, yet so many people feel the need to put other consoles down rather than celebrating the fact that the industry can have polar opposites like Wii Fit and GTA IV released within mere days of each other, both becoming huge successes, and for the right reasons. But a lot of forums are full of people who won’t be reasonable about anything but ‘their’ console.
The Speccy vs C64 just seemed like a bit of silliness by comparison. If you venture even a slightly unpopular opinion anywhere, you get jumped on.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Hero of Canton: Yup. Last gen the xbox fans could be confident their machine was the most powerful, the PS2 fans knew their machine sold the most and the gamecube fans were biding their time, waiting for the return of the destroyer of worlds.
This gen it’s all way too close and the more insecure gamers are having a great deal of difficulty dealing with it.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Relevant?
http://i25.tinypic.com/2rxtzs4.jpg
May 9th, 2008 at 3:57 am
Hair splitting at it’ best
May 9th, 2008 at 8:17 am
I like an argument, myself.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:16 am
I found the framerate on the 360 to be rather sluggish tbh. It must be rather annoying on the PS3 according to EGs numbers
May 9th, 2008 at 9:21 am
I’ve got to be honest, I haven’t had a single technical problem with it so far on 360. Those PS3 frame figures are shocking, though.