Comments on: MS Gamer’s Day: Banjo Kazooie 3 - first level in one of six gaming worlds described http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/ This is the news Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:20:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: pjmaybe http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9160 pjmaybe Tue, 13 May 2008 15:13:53 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9160 The delicious irony of shouting "Cynic" when something you clearly have a bias for is getting panned, yet didn't think anything of giving GTA a good solid kicking :) Horses for courses. And fwiw the vehicle editor for BK3 is nowhere near as sophisticated as the editor in LBP. I don't see BK3 allowing you to make a tank with cotton reel wheels. The delicious irony of shouting “Cynic” when something you clearly have a bias for is getting panned, yet didn’t think anything of giving GTA a good solid kicking :)
Horses for courses. And fwiw the vehicle editor for BK3 is nowhere near as sophisticated as the editor in LBP. I don’t see BK3 allowing you to make a tank with cotton reel wheels.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9114 Blerk Tue, 13 May 2008 14:22:16 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9114 I wonder if you can fly to those islands and cogs in the background or if that's all just 'backdrop'? I wonder if you can fly to those islands and cogs in the background or if that’s all just ‘backdrop’?

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9113 Blerk Tue, 13 May 2008 14:20:49 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9113 Yikes! I'm getting Rogue Galaxy workshop flashbacks! Yikes! I’m getting Rogue Galaxy workshop flashbacks!

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9111 Psychotext Tue, 13 May 2008 14:16:50 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9111 Woah... http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11151146&postcount=334 Woah…
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11151146&postcount=334

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9110 morriss Tue, 13 May 2008 14:15:17 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9110 Well that's just a culmination of what I read in the Danish article and the Neo Gaf stuff. Well that’s just a culmination of what I read in the Danish article and the Neo Gaf stuff.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9100 Psychotext Tue, 13 May 2008 13:52:18 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9100 morriss: That's reaching a little. morriss: That’s reaching a little.

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9098 morriss Tue, 13 May 2008 13:50:48 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9098 Well the fact that you can create your path your a level on a vehicle with over 1600 different part to choose from an assemble each giving completely varied physics and options sounds to me a little like LBP. Well the fact that you can create your path your a level on a vehicle with over 1600 different part to choose from an assemble each giving completely varied physics and options sounds to me a little like LBP.

]]> By: Zumi http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9087 Zumi Tue, 13 May 2008 13:19:19 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9087 It sounds absolutely nothing like LBP, in any way. It sounds absolutely nothing like LBP, in any way.

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9084 morriss Tue, 13 May 2008 13:15:24 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9084 *shock* :) *shock*

:)

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9083 Blerk Tue, 13 May 2008 13:14:10 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9083 I was talking 'in general' there, by the way. I wasn't accusing you of anything. For once. ^_^ I was talking ‘in general’ there, by the way. I wasn’t accusing you of anything. For once. ^_^

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9081 morriss Tue, 13 May 2008 13:09:59 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9081 Again, you're right but I don't see any evidence of that going on here. Yeah I'm a little hyped about the game but if you criticised the art-style or something and I went all defensive then fair enough. However, from what I've read, you only get to use a certain amount of fuel for each vehicle, i.e. no mention of refuelling. Also, at any time through a level you can go back to the main area and choose another vehicle to use without it affecting the time limit. (I can't quote the article but it's inferred). But you're probably on the mark when you say that there will be fuel pick-ups along the way. Hopefully we'll see in about three hours. Again, you’re right but I don’t see any evidence of that going on here. Yeah I’m a little hyped about the game but if you criticised the art-style or something and I went all defensive then fair enough.

However, from what I’ve read, you only get to use a certain amount of fuel for each vehicle, i.e. no mention of refuelling.

Also, at any time through a level you can go back to the main area and choose another vehicle to use without it affecting the time limit. (I can’t quote the article but it’s inferred).

But you’re probably on the mark when you say that there will be fuel pick-ups along the way. Hopefully we’ll see in about three hours.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9079 Blerk Tue, 13 May 2008 13:05:31 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9079 Well, it all depends on how that fuel is implemented. If you recharge it by picking stuff up in-race then that's much better than having to stop to refuel, etc. But it's kinda like time limits - and I really hate time limits. They suck. I'm biased against them. In this case we really can't tell until we see how the game works, but little things like this always set alarm bells ringing for me. As for focussing on the idiosyncrasies, that only becomes a problem if you can't appreciate the things that are good as well. Too often people will shout you down for daring to suggest that something about their favouritest title of the minute could actually have been very much better. Denial is a far worse crime than nitpicking. :-) Well, it all depends on how that fuel is implemented. If you recharge it by picking stuff up in-race then that’s much better than having to stop to refuel, etc. But it’s kinda like time limits - and I really hate time limits. They suck. I’m biased against them. In this case we really can’t tell until we see how the game works, but little things like this always set alarm bells ringing for me.

As for focussing on the idiosyncrasies, that only becomes a problem if you can’t appreciate the things that are good as well. Too often people will shout you down for daring to suggest that something about their favouritest title of the minute could actually have been very much better. Denial is a far worse crime than nitpicking. :-)

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9076 morriss Tue, 13 May 2008 12:50:47 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9076 Random_H: It's one level, mate. No-one said they all were fetch quests from start to finish. Random_H: It’s one level, mate. No-one said they all were fetch quests from start to finish.

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9075 morriss Tue, 13 May 2008 12:49:46 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9075 Blerk: That's true, but nit picking about the fact that a vehicle you drive needs fuel is a little bit excessive, don't you think? Also, if all you do is nit-pick and poke then surely the bigger picture that you champion above becomes oblivious to you as all you're doing is focusing on idiosyncrasies that don't really matter. Blerk: That’s true, but nit picking about the fact that a vehicle you drive needs fuel is a little bit excessive, don’t you think?

Also, if all you do is nit-pick and poke then surely the bigger picture that you champion above becomes oblivious to you as all you’re doing is focusing on idiosyncrasies that don’t really matter.

]]> By: Random_H http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9074 Random_H Tue, 13 May 2008 12:48:58 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9074 morriss: I'm not being cynical. It's just that I don't want to play that kind of "quests" anymore. Not in any game. I like Rare, their sense of humour and even Banjo - but that's just lazy. Always has been. I felt my anticipation for that game dip before I got to the end of that sentence. And yes, I'm well aware, that it depends on "how you do it". But that doesn't change the fact, that you'll be playing the same old fetch missions over and over again. Other than that - and the fact that games don't necessarily get better because of added vehicle-elements (Jak 2 or Kingdom Hearts anyone?) - I'm sure it'll be a charming game. It just doesn't get me excited that way. Alex morriss:

I’m not being cynical. It’s just that I don’t want to play that kind of “quests” anymore. Not in any game. I like Rare, their sense of humour and even Banjo - but that’s just lazy. Always has been. I felt my anticipation for that game dip before I got to the end of that sentence.

And yes, I’m well aware, that it depends on “how you do it”. But that doesn’t change the fact, that you’ll be playing the same old fetch missions over and over again.

Other than that - and the fact that games don’t necessarily get better because of added vehicle-elements (Jak 2 or Kingdom Hearts anyone?) - I’m sure it’ll be a charming game.

It just doesn’t get me excited that way.

Alex

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9073 Psychotext Tue, 13 May 2008 12:48:38 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9073 la la la not listening /bunny slippers ;) la la la not listening

/bunny slippers

;)

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9070 Blerk Tue, 13 May 2008 12:46:39 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9070 But the good stuff deserves to have holes picked in it. Nothing's perfect and to pretend otherwise is to encourage similar mistakes in the future. You can nitpick at brilliant games and still enjoy them. The two aren't mutually exclusive. But the good stuff deserves to have holes picked in it. Nothing’s perfect and to pretend otherwise is to encourage similar mistakes in the future. You can nitpick at brilliant games and still enjoy them. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9067 Psychotext Tue, 13 May 2008 12:43:37 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9067 Blerk: When you're too cynical you'll never be pleased as you'll find a way to pick holes in the good stuff too. Blerk: When you’re too cynical you’ll never be pleased as you’ll find a way to pick holes in the good stuff too.

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9065 morriss Tue, 13 May 2008 12:41:12 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9065 Oh I'm that, yeah, to a certain extent. But I fail to see how anything revealed about Banjo so far can be frowned upon. The gameplay seems very similar to LBP and that gets nothing but praise across the board. Oh I’m that, yeah, to a certain extent. But I fail to see how anything revealed about Banjo so far can be frowned upon. The gameplay seems very similar to LBP and that gets nothing but praise across the board.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9063 Blerk Tue, 13 May 2008 12:38:43 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9063 It's not fashionable, it's just damned good fun. :-) If you're a terminal cynic you can never be disappointed, only surprisingly pleased. I recommend it to everyone! It’s not fashionable, it’s just damned good fun. :-)

If you’re a terminal cynic you can never be disappointed, only surprisingly pleased. I recommend it to everyone!

]]> By: patlike http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9062 patlike Tue, 13 May 2008 12:38:19 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9062 I reckon it sounds good, yep. Petrol or not :) I reckon it sounds good, yep. Petrol or not :)

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9060 morriss Tue, 13 May 2008 12:37:19 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9060 Is being a cynic somehow fashionable? I must have missed that one. It's not what you have to do, it's how you do it. With all the different vehicles you can put together there is no set way of doing anything. Sounds brilliant. Is being a cynic somehow fashionable? I must have missed that one.

It’s not what you have to do, it’s how you do it. With all the different vehicles you can put together there is no set way of doing anything.

Sounds brilliant.

]]> By: fj http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9059 fj Tue, 13 May 2008 12:36:11 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9059 113.9p a litre is loads of fun. 113.9p a litre is loads of fun.

]]> By: Random_H http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9057 Random_H Tue, 13 May 2008 12:30:03 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9057 ..."he had a mission whereby he had to collect 15 coconuts from a nearby orchard before the time ran out." Teh greatness, can't wait. Hope they put pineapple missions in there too. I heard they're tasty. Alex …”he had a mission whereby he had to collect 15 coconuts from a nearby orchard before the time ran out.”

Teh greatness, can’t wait.

Hope they put pineapple missions in there too.

I heard they’re tasty.

Alex

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9056 Blerk Tue, 13 May 2008 12:27:58 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9056 Do damp squibs burn, then? :-D Do damp squibs burn, then? :-D

]]> By: pjmaybe http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9055 pjmaybe Tue, 13 May 2008 12:26:10 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9055 Since I poured it all over RARE's headquarters and put a match to it? Since I poured it all over RARE’s headquarters and put a match to it?

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9053 Blerk Tue, 13 May 2008 12:23:12 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9053 Wait... petrol? What? Since when was petrol fun? Wait… petrol? What? Since when was petrol fun?

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9051 morriss Tue, 13 May 2008 12:17:36 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9051 What hasn't really been described anywhere is the physics. You can't just whack loads of stuff together and expect it to work. If it's too heavy, or the weight is disproportionate, then it'll fly/drive like crap and eat petrol like anything. Apparently there are so many different factors to consider that it's untrue. And loads and loads of fun. What hasn’t really been described anywhere is the physics. You can’t just whack loads of stuff together and expect it to work. If it’s too heavy, or the weight is disproportionate, then it’ll fly/drive like crap and eat petrol like anything.

Apparently there are so many different factors to consider that it’s untrue. And loads and loads of fun.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9049 Blerk Tue, 13 May 2008 12:12:09 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9049 I want to build a roflcopter. I want to build a roflcopter.

]]> By: Zumi http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9048 Zumi Tue, 13 May 2008 12:02:51 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/13/ms-gamers-day-banjo-kazooie-3-first-level-in-one-of-six-gaming-worlds-described/#comment-9048 You have to collect stuff where you can then collect stuff to collect. Rare. Bless 'em! :) You have to collect stuff where you can then collect stuff to collect. Rare. Bless ‘em! :)

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