Comments on: Haze not in HD, confirms Littlewood http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/ This is the news Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:48:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9987 morriss Mon, 19 May 2008 11:10:56 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9987 Much better! :) Much better! :)

]]> By: G1GAHURTZ http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9978 G1GAHURTZ Mon, 19 May 2008 10:52:26 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9978 poo! <a href="http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/review/2008/04/01/LG-50PG6000-50in-Plasma-TV/p1" rel="nofollow">Try this one</a> poo!

Try this one

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9976 morriss Mon, 19 May 2008 10:51:02 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9976 G1GA: your link doesn't work G1GA: your link doesn’t work

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9973 morriss Mon, 19 May 2008 10:50:13 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9973 No, seriously. If only you could see my picture. I've had EG's resident HD-TV whore phAge over, and he'll confirm it really does look the fucking business. As do HD movies, although not as good as they could, admittedly. However, his LCD Sony 32D3000 is sharper and cleaner for gaming. /needs a windfall. No, seriously. If only you could see my picture. I’ve had EG’s resident HD-TV whore phAge over, and he’ll confirm it really does look the fucking business. As do HD movies, although not as good as they could, admittedly.

However, his LCD Sony 32D3000 is sharper and cleaner for gaming.

/needs a windfall.

]]> By: G1GAHURTZ http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9972 G1GAHURTZ Mon, 19 May 2008 10:49:36 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9972 Wow. And I thought that UK technology prices were high! <a href rel="nofollow">http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/review/2008/04/01/LG-50PG6000-50in-Plasma-TV/p1</a> Wow. And I thought that UK technology prices were high!

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/review/2008/04/01/LG-50PG6000-50in-Plasma-TV/p1

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9971 Psychotext Mon, 19 May 2008 10:45:54 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9971 morriss: The latest LCDs are far better than the old ones for SD feeds. They still all suck though (including plasmas). /rants morriss: The latest LCDs are far better than the old ones for SD feeds. They still all suck though (including plasmas).

/rants

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9968 morriss Mon, 19 May 2008 10:43:42 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9968 I'm just caught in between a rock and hard place atm. I really want a new TV but at the same time I don't. The picture quality on my Philips plasma from digital TV via RGB is fucking superb, I literally haven't seen it bettered by almost any High Street LCD to date. However, it really bugs me that I can't output 1080p and as an avid viewer of HD/BD I really want to experience this. Sticking point is money. I won't go for an LCD due to the lower quality terrestrial image, but to buy a Full HD 40"+ Plasma is going to cost upwards of £1500 (Danish prices). I only bought my TV 4 years ago for £2500!! eek! The missus will never come round to the idea. :'( I’m just caught in between a rock and hard place atm. I really want a new TV but at the same time I don’t. The picture quality on my Philips plasma from digital TV via RGB is fucking superb, I literally haven’t seen it bettered by almost any High Street LCD to date.

However, it really bugs me that I can’t output 1080p and as an avid viewer of HD/BD I really want to experience this.

Sticking point is money. I won’t go for an LCD due to the lower quality terrestrial image, but to buy a Full HD 40″+ Plasma is going to cost upwards of £1500 (Danish prices).

I only bought my TV 4 years ago for £2500!! eek!

The missus will never come round to the idea. :’(

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9966 Blerk Mon, 19 May 2008 10:40:39 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9966 Whenever I try to play PS3 on Comet's 52" Bravia I have to stand about half a mile back from the screen or it's impossible. Good job those controllers are wireless. Whenever I try to play PS3 on Comet’s 52″ Bravia I have to stand about half a mile back from the screen or it’s impossible. Good job those controllers are wireless.

]]> By: patlike http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9965 patlike Mon, 19 May 2008 10:36:58 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9965 Resolution talk gives me the right horn, frankly. Kris Eurogamer's got a 50" plasma. It's fucking epic. Resolution talk gives me the right horn, frankly. Kris Eurogamer’s got a 50″ plasma. It’s fucking epic.

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9964 morriss Mon, 19 May 2008 10:34:58 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9964 You can't prove I changed anything! ;) Still it's true, all plasma HD TV's will say 1024*768 whereas LCDs will say 1280*768. Rectangular and square pixels, innit. Interesting conversation, this. Anyone want to kill themselves, yet? You can’t prove I changed anything! ;)

Still it’s true, all plasma HD TV’s will say 1024*768 whereas LCDs will say 1280*768. Rectangular and square pixels, innit.

Interesting conversation, this. Anyone want to kill themselves, yet?

]]> By: G1GAHURTZ http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9961 G1GAHURTZ Mon, 19 May 2008 10:31:57 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9961 You changed that well quick morriss! You changed that well quick morriss!

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9960 morriss Mon, 19 May 2008 10:27:43 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9960 An array of 1280×720 on a 16:9 display has square pixels. An array of 1024×768 on a 16:9 display has rectangular pixels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution An array of 1280×720 on a 16:9 display has square pixels. An array of 1024×768 on a 16:9 display has rectangular pixels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9958 Psychotext Mon, 19 May 2008 10:11:41 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9958 One thing that surprises me is that the guy that does this "pixel counting" is consistently right. Whatever his method is, it clearly works. One thing that surprises me is that the guy that does this “pixel counting” is consistently right. Whatever his method is, it clearly works.

]]> By: patlike http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9957 patlike Mon, 19 May 2008 10:09:11 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9957 Correct. Well spotted. Just testing. Correct. Well spotted. Just testing.

]]> By: Harry http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9956 Harry Mon, 19 May 2008 10:06:15 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9956 720p is not 1024x720, it's 1280x720. 720p is not 1024×720, it’s 1280×720.

]]> By: G1GAHURTZ http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9948 G1GAHURTZ Mon, 19 May 2008 09:42:35 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9948 "Remember back in the good old days when we didn’t know what resolution games ran at? And didn’t care either?" Yeah, but nintendo never pimped the NES on the claim that it was better than the Master System because it ran at 640x480, only for us to find out that the vast majority of its games actually only ran at 520x380. The more you build yourself up, the more stick you're bound to get when you fail to deliver. Also, PC gamers going onto consoles after the promise of true HD gaming are not going to be happy with this continuing trend either. PC gamers are the biggest graphics whores around! “Remember back in the good old days when we didn’t know what resolution games ran at? And didn’t care either?”

Yeah, but nintendo never pimped the NES on the claim that it was better than the Master System because it ran at 640×480, only for us to find out that the vast majority of its games actually only ran at 520×380.

The more you build yourself up, the more stick you’re bound to get when you fail to deliver.

Also, PC gamers going onto consoles after the promise of true HD gaming are not going to be happy with this continuing trend either.

PC gamers are the biggest graphics whores around!

]]> By: DrDamn http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9946 DrDamn Mon, 19 May 2008 09:34:53 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9946 Halo 3 had a couple of minor issues - bizarrely it seemed to cope worse when it had less to do. Indoors facing a wall would actually cause some stutters. Simple test, stand still and spin round. However if you had no problems with Halo 3 then the devs have done their job. Halo 3 had a couple of minor issues - bizarrely it seemed to cope worse when it had less to do. Indoors facing a wall would actually cause some stutters. Simple test, stand still and spin round. However if you had no problems with Halo 3 then the devs have done their job.

]]> By: DrDamn http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9945 DrDamn Mon, 19 May 2008 09:32:52 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9945 +1 for the rock solid frame rate = goodness. If it looks ok - which Haze does - then it's on to the gameplay. +1 for the rock solid frame rate = goodness.

If it looks ok - which Haze does - then it’s on to the gameplay.

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9944 morriss Mon, 19 May 2008 09:32:03 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9944 I think deep down in the depths of our subconscious, we always cared a little bit. I think deep down in the depths of our subconscious, we always cared a little bit.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9943 Blerk Mon, 19 May 2008 09:25:03 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9943 Remember back in the good old days when we didn't know what resolution games ran at? And didn't care either? :-) Remember back in the good old days when we didn’t know what resolution games ran at? And didn’t care either? :-)

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9941 morriss Mon, 19 May 2008 09:22:58 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9941 Littlewood's right. It really doesn't matter. There was nothing wrong with Halo 3's frame rate afaics. Littlewood’s right. It really doesn’t matter.

There was nothing wrong with Halo 3’s frame rate afaics.

]]> By: OrphanageExplosion http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9940 OrphanageExplosion Mon, 19 May 2008 09:13:13 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9940 On the one hand, I agree that a smooth frame rate is very important. On the other hand, have you actually looked at Haze? I think it looks really bad. Low-res and smothered in blur (sorry, special effects) to compensate for it. 1024x576 means you're losing 36% of the HD resolution. As for the comparisons with the other games: 1. Call of Duty 4 runs at a higher resolution than Haze and is pretty rock solid at 60fps, not 30fps like Haze. That's a trade-off work taking. 2. Halo 3 also runs at a higher resolution than Haze, albeit with a less than rock solid frame rate. I just wasn't impressed with the Haze demo. If it is indeed just a timed exclusive, I'll be VERY intrigued to see the Xbox 360 code. On the one hand, I agree that a smooth frame rate is very important. On the other hand, have you actually looked at Haze? I think it looks really bad. Low-res and smothered in blur (sorry, special effects) to compensate for it. 1024×576 means you’re losing 36% of the HD resolution.

As for the comparisons with the other games:

1. Call of Duty 4 runs at a higher resolution than Haze and is pretty rock solid at 60fps, not 30fps like Haze. That’s a trade-off work taking.

2. Halo 3 also runs at a higher resolution than Haze, albeit with a less than rock solid frame rate.

I just wasn’t impressed with the Haze demo. If it is indeed just a timed exclusive, I’ll be VERY intrigued to see the Xbox 360 code.

]]> By: G1GAHURTZ http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9939 G1GAHURTZ Mon, 19 May 2008 09:08:10 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9939 Well I reckon that it needs to run at 60fps really. He's comparing it to COD4, which runs at a higher resolution, so if it doesn't get close to matching the frame rate, something's gone a cropper. Well I reckon that it needs to run at 60fps really. He’s comparing it to COD4, which runs at a higher resolution, so if it doesn’t get close to matching the frame rate, something’s gone a cropper.

]]> By: patlike http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9937 patlike Mon, 19 May 2008 09:04:21 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9937 BB: One concurs. Dropped frames are sourer than the devil's own ejaculate. BB: One concurs. Dropped frames are sourer than the devil’s own ejaculate.

]]> By: BillyBatts http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9936 BillyBatts Mon, 19 May 2008 09:03:10 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9936 I'm glad, It's a good attitude for a dev to have. I'd take a rock solid frame rate any day over some ultra crisp textures chugging along. I’m glad, It’s a good attitude for a dev to have. I’d take a rock solid frame rate any day over some ultra crisp textures chugging along.

]]> By: G1GAHURTZ http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9934 G1GAHURTZ Mon, 19 May 2008 08:53:29 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9934 I believe you! I believe you!

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9932 morriss Mon, 19 May 2008 08:49:45 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9932 I wasn't being serious. I wasn’t being serious.

]]> By: G1GAHURTZ http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9930 G1GAHURTZ Mon, 19 May 2008 08:44:50 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9930 "Ha! Gameplay > graphics." I believe that they have more of a symbiotic relationship these days... “Ha! Gameplay > graphics.”

I believe that they have more of a symbiotic relationship these days…

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9928 Blerk Mon, 19 May 2008 08:43:12 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9928 Ouch! :-D Ouch! :-D

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9926 morriss Mon, 19 May 2008 08:41:35 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/19/haze-not-in-hd-confirms-littlewood/#comment-9926 Ha! Gameplay > graphics. Or so they tell me! ;) Anyway, looks like I'll be playing it at its native res anyway! :p Ha! Gameplay > graphics.

Or so they tell me! ;)
Anyway, looks like I’ll be playing it at its native res anyway! :p

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