Comments on: Bellic voice actor stiffed on GTA IV royalties

By: Tiger Walts

Tiger Walts — Thu, 22 May 2008 11:13:06 +0000

IIRC, the film makers managed to secure the rights to use the actors’ likenesses for making the toys too. Something that the actors would have had to have relinquished in their contract.

By: Whizzo

Whizzo — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:49:31 +0000

Alec Guinness could see that it was going to be a big hit and negotiated a 2 percent royalty on the gross, clever chap Sir Alec.

By: Chinster

Chinster — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:34:39 +0000

Didn’t all the original star wars actors get stiffed on royalties?

By: TJ

TJ — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:21:00 +0000

I think it’s a pretty piss poor state of affairs - next to no one sees royalties in this industry, and it’s the only creative industry where that’s the case. I’ve had maybe one game where I’ve seen royalties and that’s about it.

It’s obviously true that the designers, writers, artists etc should be seeing royalties before the actors, since they make a larger contribution, but all creative personnel should have the right to see some form of royalty. The games industry is just slow to catch up.

By: pjmaybe

pjmaybe — Thu, 22 May 2008 06:39:26 +0000

I wonder how much that fat c*nt Gervais got for his crappy routines.

By: morriss

morriss — Wed, 21 May 2008 21:48:12 +0000

But still, he’s got a right to feel a bit gutted. He doesn’t deserve any more than he gets though.

By: mart

mart — Wed, 21 May 2008 21:19:23 +0000

Ah well. I mean, not to overshadow his obvious talent or to say he’s not deserving or anything, but like he says - it’s the union’s problem union isn’t it? Surely these guys know what they’re getting before they take the gig.

By: morriss

morriss — Wed, 21 May 2008 21:16:24 +0000

It’s not simple when you’re member of a union, mate and contracts are ’standard’, pre-agreed fare by your union and your employer.

By: mart

mart — Wed, 21 May 2008 21:13:16 +0000

If you want royalties, make sure it’s in your contract. Simple.

By: morriss

morriss — Wed, 21 May 2008 20:11:31 +0000

I think we should just replace the Simpsons cast and Family Guy etc., as their voices add nothing to the experiences, it’s all the writers. Oh wait, they get fuck all money too.

By: dtredrea

dtredrea — Wed, 21 May 2008 20:05:33 +0000

The poor struggling artist…

If you want to make money from video games– do it the same way everyone else does. BY MAKING THEM!

Anyone else hear that the South Park guys do their own voices because they don’t want to deal with actors? … go figure

By: morriss

morriss — Wed, 21 May 2008 19:35:48 +0000

I’d like to see if voice actors for Dreamworks’ films would be happy with a set fee and no royalty cut.

By: DrDamn

DrDamn — Wed, 21 May 2008 16:26:59 +0000

Voice overs in games are supplementary and non-essential. I want to see the real creative forces behind games get a good deal before you even look at whether voice over people are being badly treated. The sales of the game are, and always will be, driven by the gameplay, not the cut-scene.

By: El_MUERkO

El_MUERkO — Wed, 21 May 2008 16:13:08 +0000

give him more cash you meanies!

By: wz

wz — Wed, 21 May 2008 16:10:55 +0000

Instead of ranting about the money he did get, try to follow the argumentation laid out in the article:
“Had this been a television program, a film, an album, a radio show or virtually any other sort of traditional recorded performance, Mr. Hollick and the other actors in the game would have made millions by now”
- that’s why it is an interesting situation.

And I too cannot see how dubbing a game differs from dubbing anything else.

Which means it’s absolutely correct to pay him once for his work, afaik people who dub foreign language films aren’t paid royalties either.

By: G1GAHURTZ

G1GAHURTZ — Wed, 21 May 2008 16:10:09 +0000

““Had this been a television program, a film, an album, a radio show or virtually any other sort of traditional recorded performance, Mr. Hollick and the other actors in the game would have made millions by now.”

Yeah, exactly! IF

It’s not a TV show, and he didn’t put the biggest contribution into the game, did he!

People don’t buy games to hear a certain voice, like they watch tv to see a certain actor.

Duh!

By: CastellanSpandrell

CastellanSpandrell — Wed, 21 May 2008 16:03:53 +0000

“Bellic voice actor stiffed on GTA IV royalties” means “GTA actor gets exactly what he was contracted for”

Shut your whining 100 grand for 15 months ‘work’ is pretty good especially when your work is hanging around a studio being recorded all day.

“I blame our union for not having the agreements in place to protect the creative people who drive the sales of these games.” Yeah right, it’s your performance that’s behind all these sales eh?

By: patlike

patlike — Wed, 21 May 2008 16:02:10 +0000

Jesus Christ

By: DrDamn

DrDamn — Wed, 21 May 2008 16:01:47 +0000

Only $100,000 for 15 months eh? /smallest violin. If you didn’t want the work then don’t take it. The talent behind games is the devs / designers - that is the major part of the game which people are paying to play. If there is something which needs sorting it is making sure they get a fair cut of the money.

By: Whizzo

Whizzo — Wed, 21 May 2008 15:59:00 +0000

Jason Zumwalt (who plays Roman) has a taken a different tack to try and cash in on his newly found fame and bitch about the lack of residuals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH2nirEuO-k