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	<title>Comments on: EGM refuses to score MGS4 because Konami imposed censorship</title>
	<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/</link>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12045</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12045</guid>
		<description>Wait in line, ecu: there's a queue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait in line, ecu: there&#8217;s a queue.</p>
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		<title>By: ecu</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12044</link>
		<dc:creator>ecu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12044</guid>
		<description>Only if I can watch. Err..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only if I can watch. Err..</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12038</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12038</guid>
		<description>ecu: You paying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ecu: You paying?</p>
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		<title>By: ecu</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12037</link>
		<dc:creator>ecu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12037</guid>
		<description>Get a room!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a room!</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12031</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12031</guid>
		<description>morriss: Yeah, but you were mumbling or something.  Couldn't get a word of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>morriss: Yeah, but you were mumbling or something.  Couldn&#8217;t get a word of it.</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12030</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12030</guid>
		<description>Psycho: that's wait I've been saying all along.

/glares at noose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psycho: that&#8217;s wait I&#8217;ve been saying all along.</p>
<p>/glares at noose</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12029</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12029</guid>
		<description>Tonka:  I forget which one, but either "The Inquirer" or "The Register" had a price list at one point saying what you needed to give them to get things like a negative story about a competitor or to out a mole in your own company.

I can't find it though. =(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonka:  I forget which one, but either &#8220;The Inquirer&#8221; or &#8220;The Register&#8221; had a price list at one point saying what you needed to give them to get things like a negative story about a competitor or to out a mole in your own company.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find it though. =(</p>
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		<title>By: Tonka</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12028</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12028</guid>
		<description>The press became another PR mouthpiece years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The press became another PR mouthpiece years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12027</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12027</guid>
		<description>morriss: The fact that they don't mention it at all, none of them... not even "we couldn't test it, we'll get back to it" is what's so suspicious about it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>morriss: The fact that they don&#8217;t mention it at all, none of them&#8230; not even &#8220;we couldn&#8217;t test it, we&#8217;ll get back to it&#8221; is what&#8217;s so suspicious about it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12026</link>
		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12026</guid>
		<description>Freedom of the press is essential. Without it, what's the point in even having a press? They just become yet another PR mouthpiece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom of the press is essential. Without it, what&#8217;s the point in even having a press? They just become yet another PR mouthpiece.</p>
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		<title>By: patlike</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12025</link>
		<dc:creator>patlike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12025</guid>
		<description>Shatner: Well, in the Apple example, I really would be upset on a personal level. It's corporate bullying at its worst. Why should I pay for a sub-standard product I wasn't allowed to read about fully before release?

On the assumption that it happens all the time, I can tell you categorically that it doesn't. In fact, I'm struggling to think of many instances at all that I've personally seen in the past 10 years where a publisher has specifically told reviewers to actually omit potentially negative truths from copy.

Like, I can think of plenty of occasions, years ago, where code's been shown to journalists and things have been said along the lines of, "The frame-rate will be fixed for release," or whatever, but I don't remember many occasions at all when it's been formally messaged that elements of a game are to be left out of reviews.

To be honest, I actually take the converse of your point. I think it's more important that the PR "process" behind major  games is exposed in this way. Yes, OK, it's in MTV's interest to publish the story as it increases traffic, but that's like saying it's in CNN's interest to expose corruption because it increases viewing figures. That doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.

On the EGM point as well, I agree with what they did. They do have to talk about the game: it's massive, and of huge interest to the magazine's readership. What they're doing is saying they're opposed to the business practice behind the product. If they felt they couldn't rate the game properly, to do so would be lying. Their only other option was to not to talk about the game at all, in which case you get a GamesTM situation, as listed above.

Sorry, I think it's right that this sort of thing is made public, whether or not coverage of review restriction is inconsistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shatner: Well, in the Apple example, I really would be upset on a personal level. It&#8217;s corporate bullying at its worst. Why should I pay for a sub-standard product I wasn&#8217;t allowed to read about fully before release?</p>
<p>On the assumption that it happens all the time, I can tell you categorically that it doesn&#8217;t. In fact, I&#8217;m struggling to think of many instances at all that I&#8217;ve personally seen in the past 10 years where a publisher has specifically told reviewers to actually omit potentially negative truths from copy.</p>
<p>Like, I can think of plenty of occasions, years ago, where code&#8217;s been shown to journalists and things have been said along the lines of, &#8220;The frame-rate will be fixed for release,&#8221; or whatever, but I don&#8217;t remember many occasions at all when it&#8217;s been formally messaged that elements of a game are to be left out of reviews.</p>
<p>To be honest, I actually take the converse of your point. I think it&#8217;s more important that the PR &#8220;process&#8221; behind major  games is exposed in this way. Yes, OK, it&#8217;s in MTV&#8217;s interest to publish the story as it increases traffic, but that&#8217;s like saying it&#8217;s in CNN&#8217;s interest to expose corruption because it increases viewing figures. That doesn&#8217;t mean it shouldn&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>On the EGM point as well, I agree with what they did. They do have to talk about the game: it&#8217;s massive, and of huge interest to the magazine&#8217;s readership. What they&#8217;re doing is saying they&#8217;re opposed to the business practice behind the product. If they felt they couldn&#8217;t rate the game properly, to do so would be lying. Their only other option was to not to talk about the game at all, in which case you get a GamesTM situation, as listed above.</p>
<p>Sorry, I think it&#8217;s right that this sort of thing is made public, whether or not coverage of review restriction is inconsistent.</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12023</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12023</guid>
		<description>Psyscho: Yeah I get that. But a reviewer could write - "will all this replay value there's still MGO which will certainly add more life to your experience. Look out for our MGO review next month." Or something.

But they're not even mentioning it. That's what's weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psyscho: Yeah I get that. But a reviewer could write - &#8220;will all this replay value there&#8217;s still MGO which will certainly add more life to your experience. Look out for our MGO review next month.&#8221; Or something.</p>
<p>But they&#8217;re not even mentioning it. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s weird.</p>
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		<title>By: El_MUERkO</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12021</link>
		<dc:creator>El_MUERkO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12021</guid>
		<description>wont someone think of the children!

i don't get any of this, who cares about installs and cut scene lengths enough to stop them buying the game</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wont someone think of the children!</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t get any of this, who cares about installs and cut scene lengths enough to stop them buying the game</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12019</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12019</guid>
		<description>morriss: Possibly because they want it reviewed separately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>morriss: Possibly because they want it reviewed separately?</p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12009</link>
		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12009</guid>
		<description>Valve refused to send them early review code, so they spat their dummies and refused to review it at all. In fact, they just stopped mentioning it altogether. Reader fury ensued, subscriptions were cancelled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valve refused to send them early review code, so they spat their dummies and refused to review it at all. In fact, they just stopped mentioning it altogether. Reader fury ensued, subscriptions were cancelled.</p>
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		<title>By: ecu</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12008</link>
		<dc:creator>ecu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12008</guid>
		<description>What happened with Games TM and Half Life 2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened with Games TM and Half Life 2?</p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12005</link>
		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-12005</guid>
		<description>The "no review" does seem like a rather odd thing for EGM to do, because ultimately the only people who get hurt are the magazine readers and not Konami. They could've quite easily done a review with those things not mentioned then added a box-out to point out that the text was written 'under restrictions'.

Look at the whole Games TM "Half Life 2" debacle. The mag lost tons of respect over that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;no review&#8221; does seem like a rather odd thing for EGM to do, because ultimately the only people who get hurt are the magazine readers and not Konami. They could&#8217;ve quite easily done a review with those things not mentioned then added a box-out to point out that the text was written &#8216;under restrictions&#8217;.</p>
<p>Look at the whole Games TM &#8220;Half Life 2&#8243; debacle. The mag lost tons of respect over that.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11999</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11999</guid>
		<description>Pat, I fully expect it. It's what happens - and happens to a degree within this industry that never reaches consumers or media. It happens in other mediums too. 

It happens.

That's the problem. It happens ALL THE TIME - but it's very inconsistently reported. How come the media such as MTV is happy to cite 'other instances' of such behaviour but the only name they're prepared to mention is the name of next week's big blockbuster game? If these people have the facts, why are they only delivering the stuff that's associated with the biggest name and that will lead people to their article? It's hardly out of some sense of decency or acknowledgement of the symbiotic relationship between publisher and media because they're quite happy to name names when it suits them.

And EGM just come off looking like a bunch of sycophants. They're totally playing the victim card here. They're not bold enough to snub the game entirely and not cover it in their mag are they? They're still more than happy to have people buy the magazine and read up on Konami's game - they're just spinning it to make themselves look virtuous. 

I wonder if there are any Konami advertisments in that particular issue of EGM. Hmm?

Sorry Pat, the timing of the expose, the profile of the (named) game its being attached to and the inconsistency of the rhetoric is just far too convenient and inconsistent for me to take completely seriously.

I'm not saying Konami's attitude isn't ethically questionable - I'm just more suspicious of the behaviour of this industry's unregulated media than I am about a veteran publisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, I fully expect it. It&#8217;s what happens - and happens to a degree within this industry that never reaches consumers or media. It happens in other mediums too. </p>
<p>It happens.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem. It happens ALL THE TIME - but it&#8217;s very inconsistently reported. How come the media such as MTV is happy to cite &#8216;other instances&#8217; of such behaviour but the only name they&#8217;re prepared to mention is the name of next week&#8217;s big blockbuster game? If these people have the facts, why are they only delivering the stuff that&#8217;s associated with the biggest name and that will lead people to their article? It&#8217;s hardly out of some sense of decency or acknowledgement of the symbiotic relationship between publisher and media because they&#8217;re quite happy to name names when it suits them.</p>
<p>And EGM just come off looking like a bunch of sycophants. They&#8217;re totally playing the victim card here. They&#8217;re not bold enough to snub the game entirely and not cover it in their mag are they? They&#8217;re still more than happy to have people buy the magazine and read up on Konami&#8217;s game - they&#8217;re just spinning it to make themselves look virtuous. </p>
<p>I wonder if there are any Konami advertisments in that particular issue of EGM. Hmm?</p>
<p>Sorry Pat, the timing of the expose, the profile of the (named) game its being attached to and the inconsistency of the rhetoric is just far too convenient and inconsistent for me to take completely seriously.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying Konami&#8217;s attitude isn&#8217;t ethically questionable - I&#8217;m just more suspicious of the behaviour of this industry&#8217;s unregulated media than I am about a veteran publisher.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11998</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11998</guid>
		<description>Shatner: Whilst I agree with you about the often nihilistic and self serving attitude of the gaming media industry (big kids acting like small kids), I think you're missing the simple, basic fact here.

They're expecting reviewers not to detail negative aspects of the game. That *is* a problem, and a very serious one.

It's not gonna stop me from buying the game, but it certainly does lower my respect for the company by a great notch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shatner: Whilst I agree with you about the often nihilistic and self serving attitude of the gaming media industry (big kids acting like small kids), I think you&#8217;re missing the simple, basic fact here.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re expecting reviewers not to detail negative aspects of the game. That *is* a problem, and a very serious one.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not gonna stop me from buying the game, but it certainly does lower my respect for the company by a great notch.</p>
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		<title>By: patlike</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11996</link>
		<dc:creator>patlike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11996</guid>
		<description>Shatner: I don't think there's anything here to do with a "noble cause" really, and if we're being fair, Rockstar never told anyone there were things in GTA they couldn't talk about. 

It's news that Konami told media outlets to not mention aspects of the game that could be conceived as negatives, is it not? Doesn't that imply that they're trying to restrict review content so they can sell more copies by keeping gamers ignorant of the products' facts?

How would you feel if it came out that Apple had attempted to force iPod reviewers to not mention battery life in any way in their copy, especially if you'd bought an iPod with a battery that gave up the ghost a few months after you bought  it? You'd see that as fair, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shatner: I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything here to do with a &#8220;noble cause&#8221; really, and if we&#8217;re being fair, Rockstar never told anyone there were things in GTA they couldn&#8217;t talk about. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s news that Konami told media outlets to not mention aspects of the game that could be conceived as negatives, is it not? Doesn&#8217;t that imply that they&#8217;re trying to restrict review content so they can sell more copies by keeping gamers ignorant of the products&#8217; facts?</p>
<p>How would you feel if it came out that Apple had attempted to force iPod reviewers to not mention battery life in any way in their copy, especially if you&#8217;d bought an iPod with a battery that gave up the ghost a few months after you bought  it? You&#8217;d see that as fair, right?</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11995</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psychotext: Why would Konami 'not' want people to mention MGO? I mean, if it adds life to what is already a huge game and thus more value for money, why ban any acknowledgement that it still exists?

Makes no sense. Unless, of course, it doesn't actually exist. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psychotext: Why would Konami &#8216;not&#8217; want people to mention MGO? I mean, if it adds life to what is already a huge game and thus more value for money, why ban any acknowledgement that it still exists?</p>
<p>Makes no sense. Unless, of course, it doesn&#8217;t actually exist. <img src='http://www.videogaming247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11994</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11994</guid>
		<description>I dunno. I'm getting far too strong a whiff of the media playing the victim card with this. 

Other limits are imposed on the media - such as dated embargoes. Some sites lasciviously report what they can't tell you and just as enthusiastically tell you why and when the date may come that they can. There's a sort of "I know a secret!" theme to it.

What pisses me off is the inconsistency here. This kind of stuff has been going on for a considerable time. Other stuff, such as review guides, are also common but when they get mentioned it's implied only the specific game in question is doing the dirty deed.

Frankly, I'm sick and tired of the irresponsible and parasitic games media trying to make out they're either victims or crusading under some sort of "The reader has a right to know!" banner.

Yes, publishers put pressure on the media. They do this in many different areas of the entertainment buisiness. Control of information is absolutely paramount to their schemes. But it find the timing of this "Oh, poor us!" rhetoric and its attachment to one of the biggest games of the year to be far more than mere coincidence here. Considering the GTA embargo of just over a month ago it (nobody seems to refer to that anymore. How odd) and the squealing from the internet now, I just don't see a consistent message from the media and, every day, find myself appreciating why it's not worth catering to them. EGM, MTV - they'll get lots of page hits from talking about a 4-years-in-development title. Then, next week, they'll just move onto something else. They make out that they're acting for some more noble cause than earning a revenue but how come all those "EXPOSED!" articles have lots of adverts all over the pages?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno. I&#8217;m getting far too strong a whiff of the media playing the victim card with this. </p>
<p>Other limits are imposed on the media - such as dated embargoes. Some sites lasciviously report what they can&#8217;t tell you and just as enthusiastically tell you why and when the date may come that they can. There&#8217;s a sort of &#8220;I know a secret!&#8221; theme to it.</p>
<p>What pisses me off is the inconsistency here. This kind of stuff has been going on for a considerable time. Other stuff, such as review guides, are also common but when they get mentioned it&#8217;s implied only the specific game in question is doing the dirty deed.</p>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;m sick and tired of the irresponsible and parasitic games media trying to make out they&#8217;re either victims or crusading under some sort of &#8220;The reader has a right to know!&#8221; banner.</p>
<p>Yes, publishers put pressure on the media. They do this in many different areas of the entertainment buisiness. Control of information is absolutely paramount to their schemes. But it find the timing of this &#8220;Oh, poor us!&#8221; rhetoric and its attachment to one of the biggest games of the year to be far more than mere coincidence here. Considering the GTA embargo of just over a month ago it (nobody seems to refer to that anymore. How odd) and the squealing from the internet now, I just don&#8217;t see a consistent message from the media and, every day, find myself appreciating why it&#8217;s not worth catering to them. EGM, MTV - they&#8217;ll get lots of page hits from talking about a 4-years-in-development title. Then, next week, they&#8217;ll just move onto something else. They make out that they&#8217;re acting for some more noble cause than earning a revenue but how come all those &#8220;EXPOSED!&#8221; articles have lots of adverts all over the pages?</p>
<p>Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?</p>
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		<title>By: patlike</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11993</link>
		<dc:creator>patlike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11993</guid>
		<description>I dunno if it is any more, really. It may be more so on mags, but I can say for definite that there are only really a couple of proper "blues" per year on the interwibble when it comes to reviewing. It's always about a major product a company has a huge amount riding on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno if it is any more, really. It may be more so on mags, but I can say for definite that there are only really a couple of proper &#8220;blues&#8221; per year on the interwibble when it comes to reviewing. It&#8217;s always about a major product a company has a huge amount riding on.</p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11992</link>
		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11992</guid>
		<description>From what I've been hearing from various people over the last few months, it's a pretty regular occurrence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I&#8217;ve been hearing from various people over the last few months, it&#8217;s a pretty regular occurrence.</p>
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		<title>By: patlike</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11990</link>
		<dc:creator>patlike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11990</guid>
		<description>That's true, I guess. To me, the bottom line is that interfering in reviews should be a massive no-no for any publisher. As Eidos, etc, have found out to their cost in the past 12 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true, I guess. To me, the bottom line is that interfering in reviews should be a massive no-no for any publisher. As Eidos, etc, have found out to their cost in the past 12 months.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiral</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11988</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11988</guid>
		<description>Pat:  For a lot of people another Raiden bit would be a massive negative. ;)  It was that UK review that made me think of this, there was a huge row about that as well.  At least on the internet. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat:  For a lot of people another Raiden bit would be a massive negative. <img src='http://www.videogaming247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  It was that UK review that made me think of this, there was a huge row about that as well.  At least on the internet. <img src='http://www.videogaming247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11986</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11986</guid>
		<description>morriss: It's this that makes me feel it's a Konami decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>morriss: It&#8217;s this that makes me feel it&#8217;s a Konami decision.</p>
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		<title>By: patlike</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11985</link>
		<dc:creator>patlike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11985</guid>
		<description>Spiral: I think the inference here is that Konami asked people not to talk about aspects of the game that could be perceived as negatives. The Raiden thing was a massive spoiler, so I think it's fair to try to hide that. Although, iirc, the first UK mag review's cover was a piece of Raiden art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiral: I think the inference here is that Konami asked people not to talk about aspects of the game that could be perceived as negatives. The Raiden thing was a massive spoiler, so I think it&#8217;s fair to try to hide that. Although, iirc, the first UK mag review&#8217;s cover was a piece of Raiden art.</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11984</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11984</guid>
		<description>Blerk: Fair enough if it's not up and running, but I'd expect a review to say that as a whole package, MGO adds hours more life or something like that. But not even mentioning its existence struck me as odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blerk: Fair enough if it&#8217;s not up and running, but I&#8217;d expect a review to say that as a whole package, MGO adds hours more life or something like that. But not even mentioning its existence struck me as odd.</p>
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		<title>By: patlike</title>
		<link>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11983</link>
		<dc:creator>patlike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/02/egm-refuses-to-score-mgs4-because-konami-imposed-censorship/#comment-11983</guid>
		<description>Bit odd to think that no one was in on the beta, though. It did run for over a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit odd to think that no one was in on the beta, though. It did run for over a month.</p>
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