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July 3rd, 2008 @ 12:48
SCEE just told us that the Super Stardust HD Team Expansion is still available for download from its servers, but you won’t be able to access any Trophy functionality unless you’ve already installed Firmware 2.40.
“SuperStardust HD and the Expansion Pack are still on the store and available for download,” a rep told VG247. “However the patch that is required to enable Trophies is part of the 2.40 update. So, people can still download and play the game now, but they will not be able to access Trophies without the 2.40 firmware update.”
As you should all know by now, Sony pulled Firmware 2.40 last night after various reports of system lock-ups.
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July 3rd, 2008 at 12:52 pm
SENSATIONALI….oh wait.
July 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
U R TEH BIASED!
July 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Don’t be deliberately antagonistic morriss. Not if you’re trying to claim the moral highground. Rise above it.
July 3rd, 2008 at 1:10 pm
“Deliberately antagonistic”? Are you joking?
July 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Nope. I know why he’s saying that. So does he. But we can all play the “I don’t know what you’re going on about” game if it’ll make it sound more convincing.
As a mere website reader it doesn’t really matter whether my conduct is professional or not. If I were involved in the website professionally then I really wouldn’t go about goading its readers (nor would I tell them to go somewhere else). But that’s just me.
July 3rd, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Plus, morriss really is teh super 360 fanboy.
July 3rd, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Yep. I’m green through and through…
July 3rd, 2008 at 1:48 pm
With all due respect, morriss isn’t the one that’s been constantly criticizing the site’s editorial for the past week. Are you surprised he’s getting twitchy? You do seem to end up in a fight on here every time you post. Just an observation.
July 3rd, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Yeah, Blerk!
July 3rd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
you leave blerk alone, he’s a well meaning belligerent, like the wino in the park waving his empty bottle of Grappa at pigeons
July 3rd, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Pat, Maybe I just have standards higher than others. But from a site that claims to deliver news, I expect a consistent standard of journalism.
Why should I stay quiet when I find articles poorly written, questionably sourced from internet forums or presented in a blatantly one-sided fashion?
When a game is bad, people criticize the people that made it. When an article is bad why is it such a terrible thing to criticize the people that wrote it?
As I said before Pat, I was one of the first people to congratulate you on this site. But the quality of the content has gone downhill in a short space of time - and the chummy giggling between your Eurogamer buddies is far too prominent throughout the site and presents and off-puttingly cliquey atmosphere. VG247 currently seems more concerned with being a little group of Eurogamer chums than it does with being a decent news site that lives up to its strapline.
If you’re taking that as a personal sleight then you shouldn’t. You should be taking it as constructive criticsm from a reader with standards. If you’d maintained the quality of content you began with then my expectations wouldn’t be so high.
July 3rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Yikes! Sorry!
July 3rd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Shatner: For what it’s worth I have absolutely no idea who Pat is… I certainly don’t know him from EG.
I don’t believe it’s fair that you’re criticising Pat for the comments section which is irrelevant to your argument. Unless you’re insinuating that the articles have some sort of chummy giggling in them?
July 3rd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I’m not saying it’s bad that you criticize, but you can’t expect writers to just pass it by when you call them unprofessional and “sloppy”. There’s a difference between being “critical” and just being plain rude. There’s no need to just wade into other posters and site staff at the drop of a hat. Seriously, think about it.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but mine is that the editorial is better now than when it launched. We do what we aim to do, and that’s to keep people abreast of what’s going on. We never claimed to be the Financial Times. It’s a news blog, Shatner. Please, just chill out a bit. A news source can be anything: a forum post, an MSN message, anything at all. The reason I started this site was to give fast information to people that want it, to provide a more relaxed atmosphere to news than was currently available. I think we succeed in doing that.
And all that stuff about the “Eurogamer clique”. Give over. I’m not going to stop people enjoying the site, am I? The only time I used the EG forum when I worked there was as part of the photography stuff.
Please. Just relax a bit? I don’t want to argue with you, but you’re not making that very easy, to be honest.
July 3rd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
“but you can’t expect writers to just pass it by when you call them unprofessional and “sloppy””
I don’t.
But every day I see people questioning the professionalism of others. Writers are extremely lucky. They automatically have a platform with which to respond directly to criticism. Better yet, they can prove their detractors wrong by improving standards.
It’s not like other professions where the moment someone publicly stands up for themselves or the work they’re involved in it’s seen as an act of defiance or recklessness.
Writers have it easy in that regard. Were they on the receiving end of as much ill-informed, mis-represented and casually savage feedback as some others in this industry and had practically no choice but to accept it in silence or face mob-mentality response then I think they’d stop pouting so much when someone with some very basic expectations calls them out on sloppy, ill informed or poorly presented work.
Taking offense at criticism of your professional work and responding by telling your critics to go somewhere else is pretty childish and wholly unprofessional.
Is it really *that* unreasonable to expect a basic and consistent standard of journalism and a professional attitude to publish it under?
July 3rd, 2008 at 4:28 pm
No, it’s not, but can you not see why people respond in the way they do? I’m glad you’re critical. It’s good. There’s a comments section to every article, and that’s partly what it’s for. You’re wrong in that we don’t face criticism: we really do. Mags are different, granted, but on the internet there’s nowhere to hide. I have been criticised *beyond belief* in my time as a writer, and I certainly know what being mobbed on the web feels like.
As I asked earlier, havs something you worked on ever been battered by the press? It really sounds as though it has. If that’s the case, maybe you just need to move on?
Look, I’m just doing what I’m doing. You’re perfectly within your rights to tell me it’s shit. The comments on this site will never be moderated, and I stand by that. But don’t expect people to be happy about the fact that you call them unprofessional. Unsurprisingly, people may get angry if you do.
July 3rd, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Don’t take this the wrong way Shatner… but I’m thinking you’re either a Factor 5 or a Free Radical employee based on some of your comments regarding the press.
I can sort of understand it, but you should probably let it go as it’s not doing you any good.
July 3rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Follow the Shatner name link then go to Who am I? and read the second comment down - spot on Psychotext.
/hands Psychotext lollipop
July 3rd, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Gits, he deleted it and you made me visit his blog. Now I’m going to have to hunt you down, kill you and wear your skins.
July 3rd, 2008 at 5:15 pm
He may be from Free Rad or Factor 5 but I certainly found this to be spot on.
“But the quality of the content has gone downhill in a short space of time - and the chummy giggling between your Eurogamer buddies is far too prominent throughout the site and presents and off-puttingly cliquey atmosphere. VG247 currently seems more concerned with being a little group of Eurogamer chums than it does with being a decent news site that lives up to its strapline.”
July 3rd, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Well then, I direct you to all my previous comments
July 3rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Personally I can’t stand much of Eurogamer, mainly since I feel they are deliberately antagonistic towards the rather tragic fan boys.
Tom seems like a decent chap, but the site provokes and attracts the nastier side of the console wars, and certainly in recent months, I’ve heard Eurogamer referred to as the place tards visit, and considering it used to be one of the most respected online resources, I think that’s a shame.
I love this place though, it’s certainly got an, “all the news is fit to print” attitude about it, but I like that, and I haven’t really noticed any clique - although I’m convinced Blerk is an EG network bot
VG24/7 has got a nice relaxed feel to it, and I like the laid back atmosphere, so keep on truckin’ pat
July 3rd, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Thanks. Glad you like it
July 3rd, 2008 at 6:13 pm
@Pjmaybe
Nah it’s still there. Follow the instructions and it becomes clear.
July 3rd, 2008 at 6:17 pm
At the end of the day, I think Shatner seems like a really decent bloke who’s more than passionate about his games. I like reading most of what he writes and he’s a good foil for the place.
The only issue is his seeming lack of sensitivity and tact when expressing himself.
I was only joking when I said, “just leave”. I’d like him and everyone else who hates me, to stick around.
July 3rd, 2008 at 6:18 pm
yeah i agree with Robo_1 VG24/7 seems very friendly and cheerful and i like that. Death to Shatner
July 3rd, 2008 at 6:19 pm
@morriss: Wise words… though mostly because you’d be able to count the traffic on one hand if all your enemies left!
\o/
July 3rd, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Thanks for the witchunt fellas.
Good to see you’re keeping matters in perspective.
To suggest my expectation of basic journalistic standards as some sort of revenge for being on the receiving end of a critical mauling says a lot about people’s perception of expectations of professional conduct.
It’s actually possible to expect a little more from the media than just being a PR mouthpiece re-printing press releases just because, hey, the games media could do with a few more proper journalists rather than tabloid hacks. That doesn’t need to be tied into anything other than one person’s expectations of the media. Just like when we’re all disappointed when The Daily Mail spews forth ANOTHER fictitious piece of rambling anti-game nonsense. Does everyone who expresses disappointment in such base journalistic standards do so because they’re on some personal revenge crusade or because they expect more from the media?
And, for what it’s worth, your detective work on me won’t lead you to anything more than empty assumptions. But I’ve worked on some truly legendarily bad stuff. I’d say Batman: Dark Tomorrow deserved all it got.
Some of us are not quite as one-dimensional as some of those wise-cracking, assumed knowledge commentators out there.
Remember, my issue isn’t with any individual. My issue is about quality and consistency. I’ve said repeatedly that nothing is personal. If others insist on running away with the notion that it is then it can only be because they refuse to read what is written.
July 3rd, 2008 at 6:42 pm
@Shatner: There was no witchhunt Shatner. Simply an educated guess backed up by another poster with information from your own site.
July 3rd, 2008 at 6:44 pm
@psychotext: I don’t know what you mean? Everyone loves me!
@Shatner: I think a lot of it comes down to trust. Trust us. Trust us to make an informed choice of something is purely some nutter posting rubbish on a forum of if there is substance to a story.
Yes we get it wrong from time to time and yes, being people, some days are better than others but believe me, if you saw the list of stuff we ‘could’ publish and don’t - purely for the reasons that you stipulate - then hopefully you’d know that we don’t just say, “OH look, raa0rn48t0rz has said Halo 4 will be on PS3, let’s make a story!”
July 3rd, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Yeah no offence meant Shatner - was just impressed Psychotext got it right :). If you look back at some of your comments earlier I was agreeing with you too. I can see what you mean about this site but if I think if you take some of that away then you lose some of what the site has going for it too. It’s a generally quite friendly place and the EG clique probably comes a lot from being refugees from there and what that has become.
This site does need people like you, and occasionally me, to tell them when stories are getting a bit much and need a kick up the arse
July 3rd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
GROUP HUG!
one-dimensionalism ftw
I jest, of course.