Comments on: LBP bundle confirmed for October 31 in Europe, DS bundles stay East http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/ This is the news Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:04:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: deanimate http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32782 deanimate Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:01:12 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32782 I definitely want to get a PS3 and LBP looks absolutely fantastic but i wont be paying £300. That's just too much even if i had some spare cash. £200 is much more like it but ill probably have to wait at least a year for that sort of price. lucky for me i was brought up in the age of modem that breeds inhuman levels of patience. I definitely want to get a PS3 and LBP looks absolutely fantastic but i wont be paying £300. That’s just too much even if i had some spare cash. £200 is much more like it but ill probably have to wait at least a year for that sort of price. lucky for me i was brought up in the age of modem that breeds inhuman levels of patience.

]]> By: JPickford http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32780 JPickford Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:38:37 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32780 That's a pretty convoluted argument. Not convinced. Respect for the hardware? Pfft. Respect for the customer is what's missing here. If Sony build in expensive features I don't want than that's their problem not mine. They could have added an attachment for making holes in donuts but that doesn't make the machine worth any more to me. You've gone from saying I'm silly to suggesting I've got mental health issues. Do you read your own posts back? That’s a pretty convoluted argument. Not convinced.

Respect for the hardware? Pfft. Respect for the customer is what’s missing here. If Sony build in expensive features I don’t want than that’s their problem not mine.

They could have added an attachment for making holes in donuts but that doesn’t make the machine worth any more to me.

You’ve gone from saying I’m silly to suggesting I’ve got mental health issues. Do you read your own posts back?

]]> By: Esha http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32774 Esha Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:32:32 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32774 I understand that a £200 price tag is good for you, JP, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, consider it from a different viewpoint. The XBox has bundles which go for over £200, and the hardware of the PS3 is vastly superiour (look it up if you don't want to take my word for it). It might not look like it is at the moment, but that's for two reasons: third-party developers haven't wrapped their mind around the hardware yet because it's a little weird, and games have to be scaled down for multi-platform releases (the graphics of GTA IV were scaled back for this purpose). Plus, there's that blu-ray equation to consider. Whether you want it or not is irrelevant, the fact of the matter is that it's there, and any games developed exclusively for the PS3 are going to take advantage of the extra disc capacity available. Whilst £200 might seem reasonable to the punter on the street, saying that the PS3 should sell for <i>less</i> than the 360 Elite sounds really silly to anyone who knows what's packed inside the PS3. And I suspect it also results in whispers going on behind people's backs, of the ilk of: <i>That guy's crazy, he wants a PS3 for £200 despite the retail tag. I wonder if he's going to start offering us live poultry next to sweeten the deal?</i> I agree that the PS3's price-tag needs to come down, but I think there's a <i>sane</i> price point for it too, and one that isn't completely disrespectful to the hardware packed into the PS3. It's really like trying to go into PC World and telling the nice man behind the counter that you don't feel the price on the £5,000 gaming laptop is right, that you have £500 on you and that's what you're paying for it, like it or lump it. You don't have to buy a PS3 after all, but saying the PS3 is worth just £200 <i>is</i> silly, perhaps it's only silly to some of us, but that's what opinions and points of perspective do. I understand that a £200 price tag is good for you, JP, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

However, consider it from a different viewpoint.

The XBox has bundles which go for over £200, and the hardware of the PS3 is vastly superiour (look it up if you don’t want to take my word for it). It might not look like it is at the moment, but that’s for two reasons: third-party developers haven’t wrapped their mind around the hardware yet because it’s a little weird, and games have to be scaled down for multi-platform releases (the graphics of GTA IV were scaled back for this purpose).

Plus, there’s that blu-ray equation to consider. Whether you want it or not is irrelevant, the fact of the matter is that it’s there, and any games developed exclusively for the PS3 are going to take advantage of the extra disc capacity available.

Whilst £200 might seem reasonable to the punter on the street, saying that the PS3 should sell for less than the 360 Elite sounds really silly to anyone who knows what’s packed inside the PS3.

And I suspect it also results in whispers going on behind people’s backs, of the ilk of: That guy’s crazy, he wants a PS3 for £200 despite the retail tag. I wonder if he’s going to start offering us live poultry next to sweeten the deal?

I agree that the PS3’s price-tag needs to come down, but I think there’s a sane price point for it too, and one that isn’t completely disrespectful to the hardware packed into the PS3.

It’s really like trying to go into PC World and telling the nice man behind the counter that you don’t feel the price on the £5,000 gaming laptop is right, that you have £500 on you and that’s what you’re paying for it, like it or lump it.

You don’t have to buy a PS3 after all, but saying the PS3 is worth just £200 is silly, perhaps it’s only silly to some of us, but that’s what opinions and points of perspective do.

]]> By: JPickford http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32707 JPickford Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:01:01 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32707 The only context I had in mind was what I would feel happy about paying for a PS3. And 200 quid feels about right to me with a game thrown in. The Wii doesn't enter into it for me as I already have one and there's almost no overlap in software. I also have a 360 which is currently half the price and has a LOT of overlap. I still fail to see anything silly in suggesting a 200quid price which is still more than you'd pay for its closest competitor. The only context I had in mind was what I would feel happy about paying for a PS3. And 200 quid feels about right to me with a game thrown in. The Wii doesn’t enter into it for me as I already have one and there’s almost no overlap in software.

I also have a 360 which is currently half the price and has a LOT of overlap.

I still fail to see anything silly in suggesting a 200quid price which is still more than you’d pay for its closest competitor.

]]> By: Cort http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32699 Cort Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:29:42 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32699 "What does the price Wii have to do with anything?" In this context, everything. Where the price of a product is pitched is highly relevant to the price and perceived value of other products you share the marketplace with. One can argue all day along about target demographics, the simple point is they share shelf space and compete in the same retail sector. Wii overpriced? The only inherent monetary value of any product is the cost of the materials, labour, shipping etc. The fact that the Wii sells so well at £179 (which is below the price one could reasonably describe as "profiteering") tells us that the product is not overpriced: that's what the market bears, so very clearly. If sales drop considerably and the price remains the same, one could then consider it was overpriced. I believe that the PS3 holds much better value than the Wii and that the market will warm to a £249 price point (once the enhanced manufacturing processes permit such a reduction). £299 is still too high as evidenced by its performance against cheaper rivals. Of course, value shifts according to the amount of money available, as we are seeing in such start terms across the economy as a whole. “What does the price Wii have to do with anything?”

In this context, everything. Where the price of a product is pitched is highly relevant to the price and perceived value of other products you share the marketplace with. One can argue all day along about target demographics, the simple point is they share shelf space and compete in the same retail sector.

Wii overpriced? The only inherent monetary value of any product is the cost of the materials, labour, shipping etc. The fact that the Wii sells so well at £179 (which is below the price one could reasonably describe as “profiteering”) tells us that the product is not overpriced: that’s what the market bears, so very clearly. If sales drop considerably and the price remains the same, one could then consider it was overpriced.

I believe that the PS3 holds much better value than the Wii and that the market will warm to a £249 price point (once the enhanced manufacturing processes permit such a reduction). £299 is still too high as evidenced by its performance against cheaper rivals. Of course, value shifts according to the amount of money available, as we are seeing in such start terms across the economy as a whole.

]]> By: Johnny Cullen http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32684 Johnny Cullen Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:00:50 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32684 Oyi! If Tonka's doing it, I am jumping in! Put this in your pipe, Tonka! :P XD http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/10/13/firmware-updates-ps3-v250-psp-v500/ Oyi!

If Tonka’s doing it, I am jumping in!

Put this in your pipe, Tonka! :P XD

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/10/13/firmware-updates-ps3-v250-psp-v500/

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32681 Psychotext Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:56:52 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32681 You shut your whore mouth! /backhands You shut your whore mouth!

/backhands

]]> By: Tonka http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32680 Tonka Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:47:49 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32680 Braid is shit. Braid is shit.

]]> By: JPickford http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32669 JPickford Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:18:22 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32669 Of course it is (going by what it must cost to make). But it's great value in terms of entertainment - especially for a living room\family console. I want a PS3 but 300quid looks like poor value compared to the (more relevant) Xbox 360 which can be had for half that. Of course it is (going by what it must cost to make). But it’s great value in terms of entertainment - especially for a living room\family console.

I want a PS3 but 300quid looks like poor value compared to the (more relevant) Xbox 360 which can be had for half that.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32668 Blerk Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:16:33 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32668 Oh, snap! :mrgreen: Oh, snap! :mrgreen:

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32667 Blerk Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:16:10 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32667 Wii's overpriced too. :-D Wii’s overpriced too. :-D

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32666 Psychotext Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:15:35 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32666 The Wii is ludicrously overpriced for what it is... but then until people stop buying it that's not going to change. I don't think people are going to stop buying it. :o The Wii is ludicrously overpriced for what it is… but then until people stop buying it that’s not going to change. I don’t think people are going to stop buying it. :o

]]> By: JPickford http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32664 JPickford Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:12:26 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32664 @Cort. Yeah, I think it should be about 200 quid tops including a game. Nothing Silly about that. What does the price Wii have to do with anything? Do you think all consoles have to be priced according to each others relative power\manufacturing costs? Do Sony\MS have to wait for Nintendo to drop their prices before dropping their own? @Cort. Yeah, I think it should be about 200 quid tops including a game. Nothing Silly about that.

What does the price Wii have to do with anything?

Do you think all consoles have to be priced according to each others relative power\manufacturing costs? Do Sony\MS have to wait for Nintendo to drop their prices before dropping their own?

]]> By: Shatner http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32661 Shatner Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:56:16 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32661 Don't knock Gridrunner++ (or the forthcoming +++), it's an incredible shooter. Huge depth. Love it! VIC 20 and C64 originals look like they'll be in GR+++ when it hits XBLA later too. Minter > Braid/Halo 3 Don’t knock Gridrunner++ (or the forthcoming +++), it’s an incredible shooter. Huge depth. Love it!

VIC 20 and C64 originals look like they’ll be in GR+++ when it hits XBLA later too.

Minter > Braid/Halo 3

]]> By: evilashchris http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32659 evilashchris Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:49:16 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32659 Jeff is also doing the backgrounds for Space Invaders on XBOX Live Arcade \O/ Jeff is also doing the backgrounds for Space Invaders on XBOX Live Arcade \O/

]]> By: Cort http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32657 Cort Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:45:24 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32657 JPickford - you think the PS3 plus LBP should cost only £20 more than the Wii? Really? That's just silly. JPickford - you think the PS3 plus LBP should cost only £20 more than the Wii? Really?

That’s just silly.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32648 Blerk Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:17:45 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32648 Jeff's doing yet another remake of Gridrunner for XBLA. Jeff’s doing yet another remake of Gridrunner for XBLA.

]]> By: Tonka http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32647 Tonka Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:15:37 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32647 Man, I have my finger on the pulse all right. What is Jeff Minter up to? (that is my next sagely tip) Man, I have my finger on the pulse all right.
What is Jeff Minter up to? (that is my next sagely tip)

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32645 Blerk Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:50:30 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32645 @Tonka: See if you watch this week's episode of Playr on Bravo TV's web site. It's a half-hour episode dedicated to Fable 2, and includes lots of interviews with all three guys who were responsible for inventing Fable, not just Peter. :-) @Tonka: See if you watch this week’s episode of Playr on Bravo TV’s web site. It’s a half-hour episode dedicated to Fable 2, and includes lots of interviews with all three guys who were responsible for inventing Fable, not just Peter. :-)

]]> By: deftangel http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32639 deftangel Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:42:48 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32639 Now I don't have a DS3 so I'd have jumped at a bundle with LBP. Sony are missing out on free money! Quite frankly they should do those sort of bundles with most of their new games. Now I don’t have a DS3 so I’d have jumped at a bundle with LBP. Sony are missing out on free money!

Quite frankly they should do those sort of bundles with most of their new games.

]]> By: Esha http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32638 Esha Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:41:30 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32638 @morriss Probably. /sad Still, I can wait. There's always World of Goo to drive me absolutely <i>crazy</i> until the 24th. @morriss

Probably.

/sad

Still, I can wait. There’s always World of Goo to drive me absolutely crazy until the 24th.

]]> By: Tonka http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32637 Tonka Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:40:46 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32637 <a href="http://xbox.ign.com/articles/362/362241p1.html" rel="nofollow">Here it is</a>. I rememebr reading they had thought about Ego/Fable for many many years. All of a sudden they were out of the picture and it was all about Molinjö Here it is. I rememebr reading they had thought about Ego/Fable for many many years. All of a sudden they were out of the picture and it was all about Molinjö

]]> By: morriss http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32622 morriss Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:08:22 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32622 Because you're faithful? Just an idea. Because you’re faithful?

Just an idea.

]]> By: Esha http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32619 Esha Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:00:02 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32619 An 8/10 game, you mean? We all know that's what they were <i>really</i> thinking! Still, I don't give a damn about arbitrary numbers. <i>WANT. MAKE. THINGS.</i> Why does Sony mock us faithful so? An 8/10 game, you mean? We all know that’s what they were really thinking!

Still, I don’t give a damn about arbitrary numbers. WANT. MAKE. THINGS. Why does Sony mock us faithful so?

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32618 Psychotext Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:58:35 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32618 Yeah, I'm not in any major rush. Not for a 9/10 game anyway. ;) /sprints Yeah, I’m not in any major rush. Not for a 9/10 game anyway. ;)

/sprints

]]> By: Esha http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32617 Esha Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:57:01 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32617 Pro-tip: Wait for the Jan/Feb sales. A few of the places that will have no doubt overstocked will possibly knock even the hoped-for £100 off the retail price-tag. Or throw in extras to sweeten the deal. As for me, I own a PS3 already but that doesn't matter right now because I'm just going into LBP withdrawal symptoms now that the beta has ended... <i>TIME, MAKE IT BE THE 24TH!</i> Pro-tip: Wait for the Jan/Feb sales.

A few of the places that will have no doubt overstocked will possibly knock even the hoped-for £100 off the retail price-tag. Or throw in extras to sweeten the deal.

As for me, I own a PS3 already but that doesn’t matter right now because I’m just going into LBP withdrawal symptoms now that the beta has ended…

TIME, MAKE IT BE THE 24TH!

]]> By: Robo_1 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32615 Robo_1 Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:50:36 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32615 They should stick a platinum game and another controller in there with that, and then I think they'd be getting somewhere. They're clearly somewhat hamstrung by the manufacturing cost of the console to lower the base price right now, but they certainly need to look at the 'value' side of the console, to tempt people. They should stick a platinum game and another controller in there with that, and then I think they’d be getting somewhere. They’re clearly somewhat hamstrung by the manufacturing cost of the console to lower the base price right now, but they certainly need to look at the ‘value’ side of the console, to tempt people.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32614 Blerk Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:45:25 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32614 Better, but still no cake. Better, but still no cake.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32613 Psychotext Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:45:03 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32613 Right.... now all I need is for a retailer to stick another controller in with that for £299 and I'm sorted. Right…. now all I need is for a retailer to stick another controller in with that for £299 and I’m sorted.

]]> By: JPickford http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32609 JPickford Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:37:48 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/13/lbp-bundle-confirmed-for-october-31-in-europe-ds-bundles-stay-east/#comment-32609 About 100quid too expensive. About 100quid too expensive.

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